{Stus-List} How To Sail a 33-1 Faster?

dwight veinot dwightveinot at hfx.eastlink.ca
Sun Nov 18 13:15:19 EST 2007


Dennis

 

I would like to see a picture of your traveler setup…would that be
possible?…my e-mail is:

 

HYPERLINK "mailto:dwightveinot at hfx.eastlink.ca"dwightveinot at hfx.eastlink.ca

 

Thanks

 

Dwight Veinot

1974 C&C 35, Alianna

Head of St. Margaaret's Bay, NS

 

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On Behalf Of Dennis C.
Sent: November 18, 2007 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: {Stus-List} How To Sail a 33-1 Faster?

 

On my 35-1 I have the 4:1 traveller sheet led to two swivel camcleats
mounted vertically on the cockpit bulkhead at the ends of the traveller.
The sheet is continuous so it can be released from the high side.  With
endboom sheeting, the traveller is immediately forward of the steering
pedestal.  The swivel camcleats allow easy operation from forward or aft of
the traveller.  In the absence of a main trimmer, the helmsperson can easily
operate the traveller.  

 

In heavy air, the main trimmer sits on the windward cockpit coaming astride
the traveller sheet and plays it while watching the amount of helm the
driver has. 

 

I like this setup better than a windward sheeting car.  It's cheaper, too.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

Gary Nylander <gnylander at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

I have the windward sheeting traveler on my 30-1. As this area is primarily
light air, it is not the best combination. The mainsheet has to be pressing
on the car to make it release, and in light air, there's not enough pressure
to make that happen. It is designed for those who absolutely have to have
the crew weight on the high side of the boat at all times, and on a 30-1,
that only happens in 15+ breezes. Then it works OK. If I were to do it
again, I would have the same car, but without the windward sheeting
addition, and just lead the car adjustment lines to camcleats on the sides
of the cockpit.

 

Gary

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:jimwatts at shaw.ca"Jim Watts 

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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:01 AM

Subject: Re: {Stus-List} How To Sail a 33-1 Faster?

 

Probably. I went with the Harken Compu-Spec recommendations for the Big Boat
traveler and car, and it works just fine, car moves easily under any load we
have seen so far. It's not the windward sheeting setup, however. 

 

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III

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I have a mid-boat car on a 35 Mk II which was recommended by my rigger.
Probably a bad recommendation.

Gary

S/V Expresso

 


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I have a Harken windward sheeting car on Septima.  It's important to have
the correctly sized unit and I have a "big boat" car on a 30-2.  Operation
is so smooth and permits the sheet handler to steer the boat while the helm
is set for a 4 - 5 degree angle of attack on the foils.  Very fast.  

 

Allen MIles

S/V Septima

Portsmouth, VA

 

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Sent: 11/18/2007 7:03:18 AM 

Subject: Re: {Stus-List} How To Sail a 33-1 Faster?

 

I have a Harken windward sheeting car on Expresso and am not really happy
with it.  There are pins under the cam cleats that operate the cams.  These
pins are the weak point of the system and bend over time.  Once bent they
dont allow the cam cleats to open all the way and then the car must be
disassembled and the pins straightened.  In addition, the car is quite pricy
for what it delivers.  My 2 cents worth.

 

Gary

S/V Expresso

75 C&C 35 Mk II

East Greenwich, RI, USA

 


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On Behalf Of Leslie Paal
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:10 PM
To: tom at nonpareilracing.com; cnc-list at cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: {Stus-List} How To Sail a 33-1 Faster?

 

I have a Garhauer traveler on my C&C32, the same that is used on the
Catalina 380.  Works very well; significantly less $$ than the Harken.  The
windward sheeting car is nice for shorthanded sailing but I think easy
adjustment beats all other considerations.  Mine can be adjusted  under any
conditions without much effort.

Leslie.


Tom Anderson <tom at nonpareilracing.com> wrote:

David,

A Harken traveller is best, and a easy replacement. Scaeffer and Garhauer
also 
make decent ones I've heard (usual disclaimers).

If you do not want to replace the traveller, do what I did before I replaced

mine. Just before you tack the boat, drop the traveller to where it will be
on 
centerline after you tack. You will loose a little in speed, but if it is
the 
last thing you do before you tack, it will be in perfect position.

Tom Anderson
C&C 32 Nonpareil
Marblehead, MA



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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:04:39 -0500
From: "David Paine" 
Subject: Re: {Stus-List} How To Sail a 33-1 Faster?
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Dave,

Have you replaced the traveller on your cc33-1? If so, with what? I ask
because during my hapless attempt to race my CC33-1 in our weds night
series, my crew found it impossible to move the traveller car back up after
the traveller was eased. This is not fast! Of course, I was sailing with a
nearly all kid crew for fun with absurd sails and no budget for tweaking so
there may have been other contributing factors!

Cheers,

David

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