{Stus-List} CnC-List Digest, Vol 25, Issue 62

barry mcnish bkmcnish at shaw.ca
Tue Feb 26 20:25:58 EST 2008


I've replaced with bare stainless and are happy. You can go a size  
larger and they last a lot longer. I find no difference in comfort.
Zanzibar 33mk 1
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>   1. LifeLines (Ralph Mudge)
>   2. Re: Calling all C&C 29	sailors-propellorrecommendationgiven
>      (Ronald B. Frerker)
>   3. Re: Another Idea (David Ryan)
>   4. Fwd: Calling all C&C 29	sailors-propellorrecommendationgiven
>      (HONEYSAIL at aol.com)
>   5. Re: LifeLines (Tim Sippel)
>   6. Re: Calling all C&C 29 sailors	-propellorrecommendationneeded
>      (Gary Nylander)
>   7. Re: Calling all C&C 29 sailors	-propellorrecommendationneeded
>      (Ronald B. Frerker)
>   8. Re: handicap for C&C29s (Jack Cornish)
>   9. Re: Another Idea (Stu)
>  10. Re: LifeLines (Wally Bryant)
>  11. Re: LifeLines (Ian Matthew)
>  12. Re: Another Idea (Ian Matthew)
>  13. Re: Another Idea (JOHN D IRVIN)
>  14. Re: Another Idea (Jack Cornish)
>  15. Re: Another Idea (Wally Bryant)
>  16. Re: parts and coffee mugs (Della Barba, Joe)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:07:07 -0500
> From: Ralph Mudge <sail38 at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: {Stus-List} LifeLines
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Message-ID: <47C4473B.8010609 at frontiernet.net>
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>
>
> Has anyone used the bare wire lifelines?  Ours need replacement and
> wonder whether I should switch from the plastic covered.
> What are the pro s and con s.  Are they nasty to lean on or get thrown
> against.
> Ralph      C&C Landfall 38  WhiteBird
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:05:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrerker at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29
> 	sailors-propellorrecommendationgiven
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Message-ID: <151154.2031.qm at web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Jim please,
> Something more subtle.  How about the plumbers
> plunger; with stick still attached.  Never find it
> 'til haulout.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
>
>> You didn't mention tying a bucket to his
>> rudder...always a surefire handicap.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:06:30 -0500
> From: "David Ryan" <dryan at buckeye-express.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> Stu;
> Logo's for sail covers/sails should probably be about the size of  
> the sail
> numbers. That is pretty big. I would guess about 24" high??
> Made of Sticky-Back, these are not going to be cheap.
>
>
> dave ryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stu" <stu at cncphotoalbum.com>
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:56 AM
> Subject: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
>
>> Man, I hope this winter crap is soon over -- I have nightmares  
>> thinking
>> about things C&C boat owners want for their boats and how I can  
>> help them.
>> We have gone through ball caps, T-shirts, burgees, coffee mugs, etc.,
> etc.,
>> and now someone suggests C&C logo's for their sails and sail covers.
>>
>> We can design the logo, get the material, cut it and mail and it  
>> should be
> a
>> reasonable cost.  Now all I need to know is HOW BIG!!! and how many  
>> do you
>> want?  Two designs could be possible:
>> a) with the word YACHTS on the bottom (will be tricky cutting and
>> installing)
>> b) just the bars and C&C
>>
>> The next problem is that Gladys is away til the end of the week and  
>> when
> she
>> comes home I'll tell her to cut 50 logos.  Its okay, my health  
>> insurance
> is
>> paid up.
>>
>> Stu
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:12:14 EST
> From: HONEYSAIL at aol.com
> Subject: {Stus-List} Fwd: Calling all C&C 29
> 	sailors-propellorrecommendationgiven
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> We have had good luck with a semi inflated rubber inner tube  
> slipped  over
> the keel. A bicycle tube will work as well. Again, you need a haul  
> out to  find
> it.
>
> Jack Fitzgerald
> C&C 39
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> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:16:46 -0500
> From: "Tim Sippel" <Tim.Sippel at rci.rogers.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} LifeLines
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> High Ralph,
>
> I have read that the plastic coating is no longer preferred as moister
> can form inside causing invisible problems to the wire itself.
>
> If I were replacing lifelines I'd go bare wire, if you didn't like it
> you can add that plastic chafe tubing most people put on their  
> shrouds ,
> giving the plastic coating look... but its removable
>
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com
> [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Mudge
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Subject: {Stus-List} LifeLines
>
>
>
> Has anyone used the bare wire lifelines?  Ours need replacement and
> wonder whether I should switch from the plastic covered.
> What are the pro s and con s.  Are they nasty to lean on or get thrown
> against.
> Ralph      C&C Landfall 38  WhiteBird
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:18:57 -0500
> From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylander at atlanticbb.net>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors
> 	-propellorrecommendationneeded
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
> Message-ID: <013201c8789b$ae6d45c0$6701a8c0 at IBM>
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> Wind, Wind, Wind. I sail primarily in a flat water, light wind area.  
> On the few days when it's over 15, my 30-1 thrives. However, the  
> rest of the time, I get hammered by J-24's who only owe me 3  
> seconds. So, I decided to drive my friends J-24 and we are at the  
> top of the heap, fighting against the other J-24's. A 29 would be  
> great, as a tender boat with better acceleration, in this area.  
> Those of you who have regular 20+ winds should have a 30-1, with its  
> stout stick, almost 50% ballast ratio and flat stern to avoid those  
> IOR problems.
>
> The 29 is probably not that boat, as Dwight said, maybe a bulb would  
> help, but hull shape has something to do with it as well.
>
> Gary
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jim Watts
>  To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:11 PM
>  Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors - 
> propellorrecommendationneeded
>
>
>  Oh, dwight, too much rum and not enough oxygen. Put out the cigar.  
> I could blow almost anything remotely close in size out of the water  
> in my 29-2, especially in light winds. Not to say the 27-3 is a  
> slug, but it really depends at least as much on who's sailing them.  
> The 29-1 is also a fast boat in light air. PHRF puts them 6-10 sec/ 
> mi ahead of the 27-3
>  Just ask Hank Evans, he won every race he entered. (Sorry, Hank, I  
> know Practical Sailor made that part up but it's just too good a  
> quote).
>
>  Jim Watts
>  Paradigm Shift
>  C&C 35 Mk III
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: dwight veinot
>    To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>    Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:19 PM
>    Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors - 
> propellorrecommendationneeded
>
>
>    Sorry, but same about the 29 MKI
>
>
>
>    Dwight Veinot
>
>    1974 C&C 35, Alianna
>
>    Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of dwight veinot
>    Sent: February 25, 2008 7:15 PM
>    To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>    Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors - 
> propellorrecommendationneeded
>
>
>
>    Sorry about my blunt reply on the 29 MKII, Ian, but I do know  
> from experience, you won?t make it a winner that often even with a  
> new prop. My 27 MKIII, when I owned it and raced it, mostly under  
> crewed,  would leave it in dust in most winds always?it just doesn?t  
> go fast upwind and upwind is where racing is all about or at least  
> mostly about?the 29 MKII is a nice looking boat though, just not a  
> good performer in my humble opinion. My favourite performance  
> cruiser of the C&C?s is the 30 MKI even though I don?t sail one now  
> but I had one in years gone by and thought I was lucky to have such  
> a good boat?the 35 MKII that I sail now is a good compromise for  
> someone who wants that little bit extra in cruising comfort and  
> still with good racing performance capability at a reasonable price,  
> if you can find one of the 147 ever built?a good move up for you if  
> you?re the waters you sail in permit the extra draft
>
>
>
>    Dwight Veinot
>
>    1974 C&C 35, Alianna
>
>    Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Ian Matthew
>    Sent: February 25, 2008 6:58 PM
>    To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>    Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors - 
> propellorrecommendationneeded
>
>
>
>    I keep feeding and watering it ? but it refuses to grow!  And as  
> for a fixed 3 blade ? well ? just wondering ? I heard good reports.
>
>
>
>    Cheers,
>
>
>
>    Ian Matthew
>
>    C&C 29-1  "Siento el Viento"
>
>    San Francisco Bay
>
>    From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of dwight veinot
>    Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:49 PM
>    To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>    Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors -  
> propellorrecommendationneeded
>
>
>
>    And why a 29
>
>
>
>    Dwight Veinot
>
>    1974 C&C 35, Alianna
>
>    Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>
>
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>    From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of rspence7
>    Sent: February 25, 2008 6:43 PM
>    To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>    Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors -  
> propellorrecommendationneeded
>
>
>
>    ???If you mostly race, why would you even consider a fixed three  
> blade prop on a 29'  C&C boat???
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>
>      From: Ian Matthew
>
>      To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>
>      Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:14 PM
>
>      Subject: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors - propellor  
> recommendationneeded
>
>
>
>      I am going to haul my 1978 C&C 29 mk 1 out in a couple of weeks  
> and am considering replacing my fixed 2-blade propeller (original)  
> with a folding prop.  I find the current 2-blade has poor  
> performance in reverse but is OK going forwards.  I had my Atomic-4  
> serviced, the engine is good and so is the transmission.
>
>
>
>      I?ve seen adverts suggesting the Indigo 3 fixed blade prop will  
> increase performance without too much drag ? anyone got experience?   
> Or how about the CDI 2-blade?
>
>
>
>      But as I race more than I cruise, any recommendations on a  
> folding 2 blade or 3 blade prop?
>
>
>
>      Cheers,
>
>
>
>      Ian Matthew
>
>      C&C 29-1  "Siento el Viento"
>
>      San Francisco Bay
>
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> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:22:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrerker at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Calling all C&C 29 sailors
> 	-propellorrecommendationneeded
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> There was a San Juan 24 on Kentucky Lake that could
> beat J24s scratch.  PHRF has the numbers as 216 for
> the SJ24 and 178 for the J24.  Obviously, this guy
> could get the most out of his boat.
> BTW, I calculated the actual numbers that winners
> sailed to over a 2-3yr span at Carlyle.  I found that
> the winners sailed 20+ seconds/mi faster than their
> phrf number, presuming that the median boat sailed its
> time.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
>
>> It's no secret that the 29 thrives in light wind &
>> is tender in heavier winds but my experience is that
>> sailed by the right sailor they can be fast in all.
>>
>> Here's my experience from Diefenbaker lake ( usual
>> course is a 9 mile triangular course,either once or
>> twice around, but they also do point to point
>> sailing along the lake).
>>
>> Several years ago there was a 29 owned by a very
>> good sailor . It won or placed in almost every race
>> ( & left me in the dust in light winds , & even in
>> heavy winds for that matter).
>>
>> Then the boat was sold to a new owner & suddenly it
>> was slow enough that they had trouble getting by my
>> 24 (Note: I'm a better sailor now than when I raced
>> the good guy & the new owner of the 29 needs to
>> learn more).
>>
>> In fact what is interesting on that lake is that
>> several of the fast boats were sold over the course
>> of a year or two and all suddenly slowed down.Boats
>> that won or placed are suddenly half way or more
>> back.
>>
>> This is not to take anything away from the new
>> owners except to say they haven't learned how to
>> sail the boats as well as the PO did.
>>
>> A prairie observation for what its worth.
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:24:08 -0500
> From: "Jack Cornish" <jcornish2 at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} handicap for C&C29s
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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>
>  From my experience, the 29 Mk I needs to be sailed flat in order to  
> go fast and you need to pay attention to mainsail trim to keep the  
> boat on its lines as the wind picks up. As the boat speeds up it  
> tend to bury its stern so, you need to get weight out of the ends.  
> It is a very different boat from the 27 and 30 in that it carries a  
> lower ballast ratio than the early seventies boats. Owned a 27 and  
> 30 and they were excellent  all around performers in their time.  
> They still do well in club racing providing there isn't a lot of  
> newer lightweight designs in the fleet.
>
>  Our current boat (C&C 29 MKI) isn't raced except for an occasional  
> wednesday night club race when its crewed by a bunch of retired  
> serious racers who are intent on not taking it seriously. The PHRF  
> numbers on the boat seem about right compared to other similar  
> boats. I do think it's a more difficult boat to sail effectively  
> than a 27/30 because of its lower ballast ratio and its flat bottom  
> and aft run. I'd love to see a 29 with a bendy spar rather than its  
> standard telephone pole mast. Having raced Stars for a few years and  
> seeing what a flat bottom boat and a bendy spar can do for sailing  
> performance I'd consider rerigging a 29 MK I with a bendy section  
> but, I'm leaving that in the realm of fantasy.
>
>  Have had a folding martec, a solid two blade and will install a  
> three blade indigo prop this season. Not much difference between the  
> martec and two blade. The problem, for me, is geting the boat to  
> move through a chop at a reasonable speed. We cruise now and getting  
> there in a reasonable amount of time is important so, I'll try the  
> three blade indigo. If I were just racing and day sailing, I'd go  
> with the Martec.
>
>
>  Jack Cornish
>  Moondance C&C 29 MK I
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:33:48 -0500
> From: "Stu" <stu at cncphotoalbum.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
> To: "David Ryan" <dryan at buckeye-express.com>,	<cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> Sticky-back or Insignia cloth is expensive but not as much as  
> Sunbrella or
> Ultra-Suede.  We deal with a company that gives us wholesale prices on
> material which relates to 50% retail.
>
> You would be surprised how many "C"s would come out of 1 yard x 54"
> material -- just have to engineer the pattern.
>
> Stu
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:34:48 -0800
> From: "Wally Bryant" <wal at wbryant.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} LifeLines
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> Ralph -
>
> I went with bare wire, and it has not been a problem.  I also  
> upsided the
> top wire to 1/4", and left the center 3/16".
>
> There's been a serious discussion on another list about Am-Steel as  
> well,
> with some folks claiming to have years of off-shore use without a  
> problem.
> I've no personal knowledge.  There's a line of lifeline and gate  
> fittings
> made for rope:  <http://csjohnson.com/marinecatalog/00007.htm#bot>
>
> Wal
>
> - - - - - -
> www.wbryant.com
> Stella Blue
> '81 C&C Landfall 38, Hull 90
>
>
>> Has anyone used the bare wire lifelines?  Ours need
>> replacement and wonder whether I should switch from the
>> plastic covered.
>> What are the pro s and con s.  Are they nasty to lean on or
>> get thrown against.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:50:35 -0800
> From: "Ian Matthew" <ian.matthew at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} LifeLines
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> Regulations for racing offshore now require that the life lines be
> uncovered.  It's not uncomfortable and you'll see chafing problems  
> much
> sooner.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian Matthew
> C&C 29-1  "Siento el Viento"
> San Francisco Bay
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> ]
> On Behalf Of Tim Sippel
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:17 AM
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} LifeLines
>
> High Ralph,
>
> I have read that the plastic coating is no longer preferred as moister
> can form inside causing invisible problems to the wire itself.
>
> If I were replacing lifelines I'd go bare wire, if you didn't like it
> you can add that plastic chafe tubing most people put on their  
> shrouds ,
> giving the plastic coating look... but its removable
>
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com
> [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Mudge
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Subject: {Stus-List} LifeLines
>
>
>
> Has anyone used the bare wire lifelines?  Ours need replacement and
> wonder whether I should switch from the plastic covered.
> What are the pro s and con s.  Are they nasty to lean on or get thrown
> against.
> Ralph      C&C Landfall 38  WhiteBird
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:53:26 -0800
> From: "Ian Matthew" <ian.matthew at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
> To: "'David Ryan'" <dryan at buckeye-express.com>,
> 	<cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> I would get the sail emblem and sail numbers from the sailmaker -  
> they all
> know what sizes and can deal with them no problem.  If you have a  
> local
> loft, just take it in - it doesn't cost an arm & a leg - and while  
> you're at
> it have some minor repairs taken care of!
>
> Stu - my advice (FWIW) - don't go there!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
> tel: (415) 883-3134 (office)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> ]
> On Behalf Of David Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:07 AM
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
> Stu;
> Logo's for sail covers/sails should probably be about the size of  
> the sail
> numbers. That is pretty big. I would guess about 24" high??
> Made of Sticky-Back, these are not going to be cheap.
>
>
> dave ryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stu" <stu at cncphotoalbum.com>
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:56 AM
> Subject: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
>
>> Man, I hope this winter crap is soon over -- I have nightmares  
>> thinking
>> about things C&C boat owners want for their boats and how I can  
>> help them.
>> We have gone through ball caps, T-shirts, burgees, coffee mugs, etc.,
> etc.,
>> and now someone suggests C&C logo's for their sails and sail covers.
>>
>> We can design the logo, get the material, cut it and mail and it  
>> should be
> a
>> reasonable cost.  Now all I need to know is HOW BIG!!! and how many  
>> do you
>> want?  Two designs could be possible:
>> a) with the word YACHTS on the bottom (will be tricky cutting and
>> installing)
>> b) just the bars and C&C
>>
>> The next problem is that Gladys is away til the end of the week and  
>> when
> she
>> comes home I'll tell her to cut 50 logos.  Its okay, my health  
>> insurance
> is
>> paid up.
>>
>> Stu
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:59:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: JOHN D IRVIN <john.irvin at rogers.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
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> Just  the bars and C&C is my suggestion. I would be in for mainsail  
> and mainsail cover - suggest about 12-14" height.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Stu <stu at cncphotoalbum.com>
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:56:45 AM
> Subject: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
> Man, I hope this winter crap is soon over -- I have nightmares  
> thinking
> about things C&C boat owners want for their boats and how I can help  
> them.
> We have gone through ball caps, T-shirts, burgees, coffee mugs,  
> etc., etc.,
> and now someone suggests C&C logo's for their sails and sail covers.
>
> We can design the logo, get the material, cut it and mail and it  
> should be a
> reasonable cost.  Now all I need to know is HOW BIG!!! and how many  
> do you
> want?  Two designs could be possible:
> a) with the word YACHTS on the bottom (will be tricky cutting and
> installing)
> b) just the bars and C&C
>
> The next problem is that Gladys is away til the end of the week and  
> when she
> comes home I'll tell her to cut 50 logos.  Its okay, my health  
> insurance is
> paid up.
>
> Stu
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:00:47 -0500
> From: "Jack Cornish" <jcornish2 at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Ian Matthew<mailto:ian.matthew at comcast.net>
>  To: 'David Ryan'<mailto:dryan at buckeye-express.com> ; cnc-list at cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
>
>  I would get the sail emblem and sail numbers from the sailmaker -  
> they all
>  know what sizes and can deal with them no problem.  If you have a  
> local
>  loft, just take it in - it doesn't cost an arm & a leg - and while  
> you're at
>  it have some minor repairs taken care of!
>
>  Stu - my advice (FWIW) - don't go there!
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Ian
>  tel: (415) 883-3134 (office)
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
> > [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com]
>  On Behalf Of David Ryan
>  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:07 AM
>  To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
>  Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
>  Stu;
>  Logo's for sail covers/sails should probably be about the size of  
> the sail
>  numbers. That is pretty big. I would guess about 24" high??
>  Made of Sticky-Back, these are not going to be cheap.
>
>
>  dave ryan
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Stu" <stu at cncphotoalbum.com<mailto:stu at cncphotoalbum.com>>
>  To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>>
>  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:56 AM
>  Subject: {Stus-List} Another Idea
>
>
>> Man, I hope this winter crap is soon over -- I have nightmares  
>> thinking
>> about things C&C boat owners want for their boats and how I can  
>> help them.
>> We have gone through ball caps, T-shirts, burgees, coffee mugs, etc.,
>  etc.,
>> and now someone suggests C&C logo's for their sails and sail covers.
>>
>> We can design the logo, get the material, cut it and mail and it  
>> should be
>  a
>> reasonable cost.  Now all I need to know is HOW BIG!!! and how many  
>> do you
>> want?  Two designs could be possible:
>> a) with the word YACHTS on the bottom (will be tricky cutting and
>> installing)
>> b) just the bars and C&C
>>
>> The next problem is that Gladys is away til the end of the week and  
>> when
>  she
>> comes home I'll tell her to cut 50 logos.  Its okay, my health  
>> insurance
>  is
>> paid up.
>>
>> Stu
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:03:21 -0800
> From: "Wally Bryant" <wal at wbryant.com>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Another Idea
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> For my new main, I just had Red and Blue bars stuck on.  That's  
> actually the
> "C" flag, which I hadn't picked up on at the time.  So, my sail just  
> says
> "C".  If I were to do it again, I'd put two sets of bars on, so it  
> would say
> "C" and "C".   The nice thing about this is that you can apply them  
> directly
> against each other, and don't have a "reversed" logo on the sail  
> when the
> sun shines through it.
>
> Wal
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:13:19 -0500
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <Joe.Della.Barba at ssa.gov>
> Subject: Re: {Stus-List} parts and coffee mugs
> To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
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> Is South Shore (or something similar) still around to sell parts?  
> Anyone
> have a link?
> Also, how do I get in on coffee mugs?
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
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