{Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

Pete Shelquist Pete.Shelquist at comcast.net
Tue Jun 16 08:41:38 EDT 2009


I agree with Gary that it depends on how you like to use the boat.
Personally, I do a lot of shorthanded races/cruises and have kept my winches
for headsails and spins at the mast.  It makes it easier to be closer to the
action when making changes.

 

 

From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Gary Nylander
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:27 PM
To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: {Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

 

I'm going to disagree on taking all the winches off and running all the
lines back..... it depends on what you do with the boat. I did that,
upgraded my winches, and put all the lines (except outhaul and cunningham)
back to the cockpit. 

 

Now, there are too many functions in the cockpit when racing. Great for
cruising and short-handed but a cluster mess when trying to gibe the main,
drop the chute, raise the genoa, and get around a mark. Main trimmer, two
jib trimmers, driver, and a halyard person gets a bit crowded.

 

I race on a Rhodes 41 and a J-24 which have functions left on the mast,
which makes it a lot easier to get things done.

 

So, figure out what you are going to do most and then plan accordingly. I do
agree that with today's line locks, you don't need a winch and cleat for
each line. The Rhodes shares a couple winches on the mast with some line
locks and the mast person has room and opportunity to get his/her job done.

 

If your C&C, like mine when I bought her, has winches on the deck for
halyard functions, I would think you could move some up on the mast to get
better leverage for those up/down functions. I wasn't thrilled to be bending
down to the dorade boxes on my 30-1 to raise and lower, so moved those to
the cockpit, and now I have too much going on in a small space.

 

Just my $.035 (inflation).

 

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 

From: David Knecht ATT <mailto:david.knecht at uconn.edu>  

To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: {Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

 

Some pictures and/or labeled diagrams of various mast/deck/cockpit
line/winch layouts on a variety of C&C's would be a great resource!  Dave 

 

On Jun 13, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Dennis C. wrote:





I agree about removing winches.  The winches by the mast must go.  Sell the
extras on eBay.  I upgraded Touche's cabintop winches from single speed to
two speed off eBay.  The singles got sold same way.

 

When I bought Touche', 35-1, it had winches by the mast.  Now all lines are
led aft via 2 triple deck organizers, a mast base block and a stand up block
to 2 triple rope clutches and a couple powercleats.  Way neater, nicer and
more efficient.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 


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From: Gary Graham <graham313 at comcast.net>
To: tdimattia at acesdirect.com; cnc-list at cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:33:29 PM
Subject: Re: {Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

Tony, are you planning to race your 36?

 

If so, I'd remove about 8 or 10 of those winches and cleats to get the boat
on a weight diet. We have a C&C 35 in our racing class (17 C&C 35 Mark-1s in
our one-design start at the Mackinac Race last year) that only has 4 winches
(and he won last year)! Two on the cabintop aft and two in the cockpit. I
went down to 6 winches with 4 in the cockpit.  If you are going to race your
36, and want to optimize your layout you can contact me offlist.

 

Gary Graham, Contender, C&C 35 Mk-1, Hull #144

----- Original Message -----

From: tdimattia at acesdirect.com

To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:58 PM

Subject: Re: {Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

 

ok lets start with the halyards

 

forward

    4 to the top of the mast

          two cable two rope,

    1 cable about midway the mast  for storm jib ,

    1 more cable between mast and storm jib I guess to rake the main

  also maybe one more holding the roller furling maybe

ok now aft

     2 to the top of the mast

           one cable (main I think)

           one rope (I think holds boom up)

now with the winches and cleats

    14 total

          4 around mast and 1 middle of the back two  aft

          4 on the companion way ( two on each side)

          4 for the sheets two double speed and two triple

thanks for any incite given 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis C. <mailto:captbuy at yahoo.com> 

To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:50 PM

Subject: Re: {Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

 

Anthony,

 

Even sisterboats may be rigged differently.  A little more info would be
helpful.  How many halyards, mast exits per side, mast base turning blocks
per side, deck organizers, rope clutches, etc?  Describe what's there now.

 

Generally, your primary genoa and spinnaker halyards should exit on the port
side of the mast.  Your main halyard is OK on the starboard side.

 

Enquiring minds want to know more.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 


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From: Tony Aces <tdimattia at acesdirect.com>
To: "cnc-list at cnc-list.com" <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:35:43 AM
Subject: {Stus-List} 36 C & C lines

I am the new owner of a 79 C & C and the mast was down when purchased and I
am a little confused about roughting to lines back to the cabin if someone
could send photos or give advice I would be greatfull
Thanks


Anthony P DiMattia

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