{Stus-List} Mainsheet system shortening

Russ & Melody russmel at telus.net
Tue Jan 18 09:12:23 EST 2011


I've seen this done. But it can be annoying with 
the lower block getting banged to the deck in light air sometimes.

Graham, I didn't know  C&C made a "5"   :)

         Cheers, Russ
         35 mk-1

At 05:19 AM 18/01/2011, you wrote:
>
>What about putting the strop on the traveler car rather than below the boom?
>
>Gary Graham, Contender, C&C 5 Mk-1
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:captbuy at yahoo.com>Dennis C.
>To: <mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:28 PM
>Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Mainsheet system shortening
>
>Well, it's simple enough to give it a try, wire, 
>Dyneema or whatever.  I guess I'd make it long 
>enough to do some good but short enough to clear 
>the lifelines.  I still don't like the idea of 
>the block hanging a couple feet below the 
>boom.  It's one thing if the sheets hit a crew, 
>it's quite another if they get whacked by a block.
>
>Dennis C.
>
>
>From: Gmail <timgdyr at gmail.com>
>To: "cnc-list at cnc-list.com" <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
>Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 11:09:14 AM
>Subject: Re: {Stus-List} Mainsheet system shortening
>
>I have a wire version and haven't had any issues 
>with it to date.  It's very useful to keep the jaundiced shorter.
>
>Tim
>Mojito
>35-3
>
>
>
>On Jan 16, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Sam Salter 
><<mailto:sam.c.salter at gmail.com>sam.c.salter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I'd think this strop many people are 
>>suggesting, would be the perfect fit for "Dynema"rope.
>>Not too expensive at 2 ft plus the splices; Nothing to get cut on.
>>Soft like baby's bum; Strong like tractor!
>>Sam :-)
>>C&C 26  Liquorice
>>Ghost Lake  Alberta
>>(I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
>>
>>On 2011-01-16, at 6:09 AM, dwight veinot 
>><<mailto:dwightveinot at hfx.eastlink.ca>dwightveinot at hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I use such a strop, made of covered wire, like 
>>>life line wire.  It’s about 2 feet long and 
>>>I have a 7:1 mainsheet system with a ratchet 
>>>block and cleat on the traveler.  The strop 
>>>educes about 14 feet on the main sheet; I like 
>>>the way it works.  As you know the traveler on 
>>>my 35MKII is on the bridge deck and the block 
>>>hanging from the boom has never once been an issue for anyone on the boat.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>D. Veinot
>>>
>>>----------
>>>From: 
>>><mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com>cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
>>>[mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
>>>Sent: January 15, 2011 6:55 PM
>>>To: <mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>>>Subject: Re: { Stu s-List} Mainsheet system shortening
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chuck, all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I've thought about shortening my 6:1 system 
>>>with a strop but don't like the idea of the 
>>>block hanging a couple feet below the boom.  I 
>>>keep envisioning a crew getting whacked with it during a gybe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Any good thoughts on a better solution?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dennis C.
>>>
>>>Touche' 35-1 #83
>>>
>>>Mandeville , LA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: 
>>>"<mailto:cscheaffer at comcast.net>cscheaffer at comcast.net" 
>>><<mailto:cscheaffer at comcast.net>cscheaffer at comcast.net>
>>>To: <mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>>>Sent: Sat, January 15, 2011 11:28:36 AM
>>>Subject: Re: { Stu s-List} Mainsheet system on C&C 35-III
>>>
>>>Another thought:
>>>When cruising, I usually have the autohelm 
>>>steering and I'm mostly in the cockpit, 
>>>forward of the wheel, where I can monitor the 
>>>GPS, check the chart on the seat, and easily 
>>>reach everything; jib sheets, mainsheet, 
>>>traveller crosshauls, backstay hydraulics, 
>>>halyards, cunningham, vang, mainsail outhaul, 
>>>etc.  I'm closer to the cabin and the ice box, 
>>>galley, and tea kettle.   Locating the 
>>>traveller closer to the mast shortens the 
>>>mainsheet considerably, and one of the best 
>>>setups can be found on racing/crusing 
>>>Beneteaus, where they mount two travellers on 
>>>the boat.  Coachtop for cruising and cockpit 
>>>for racing.  The coachtop traveller uses a 
>>>very short mainsheet compared to the cockpit 
>>>mounted racing version and there is no spaghetti on the cockpit floor.
>>>
>>>Another thought::
>>>A long end-of-boom mainsheet can be shortened 
>>>somewhat by adding a strop between the boom 
>>>bail and the upper block of your 
>>>purchase.  Our 34R needs about 120 ft of 
>>>mainsheet to allow the boom with a 6:1 
>>>purchase to go out for downwind 
>>>sailing.  Adding a 3 ft strop will shorten the 
>>>line 18 feet which will reduce some spaghetti 
>>>on the floor, clear the helm's view a little 
>>>and possibly make adjustments quicker when 
>>>close hauled?   I plan to makeup an amsteel 
>>>strop this winter in 1/4" amsteel.
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>Resolute, 1990 C&C 34R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Tim Goodyear" <<mailto:timgdyr at gmail.com>timgdyr at gmail.com>
>>>To: <mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:45:30 AM
>>>Subject: Re: { Stu s-List} Mainsheet system on C&C 35-III
>>>
>>>Thanks for the updates.  I forgot to mention that we have 3/4 boom
>>>sheeting with the traveller across the companionway bridge deck.  The
>>>new traveller is Harken big-boat with a five to one purchase and lines
>>>led up the cockpit sides for trimming on the rail. This is too far
>>>forward for the helm to reach easily, but has worked ok for cruising.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>On Saturday, January 15, 2011, John and Maryann Read
>>><<mailto:johnpread at comcast.net>johnpread at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tim
>>> >
>>> > Our 34
>>> > has mid boom sheeting.  Single Harken 3 sheave blocks on traveler and
>>> > boom.  Had to install larger bale on boom when original broke.
>>> > Sheet goes forward to mast then aft to 2 
>>> speed winch on cabin roof next to
>>> > companionway - I think it is a Barient 22.  Traveler is Harken big boat
>>> > series with cam cleats each side.  Works very well.   One crew is
>>> > dedicated to trimming main and winch provides more than enough power to
>>> > trim even if fully loaded.  All lines hang down below so are out of
>>> > the way.  That crew stands in companionway 
>>> and is out the way of other crew
>>> > but can easily reach out a hand to help if needed.  Easy to play traveler
>>> > going upwind to balance the rig during puffs.  Interesting to note that
>>> > from my position on the helm I can see the 
>>> boom actually sagging when fully
>>> > trimmed in a breeze.  The downside is the 
>>> helmsman can not easily trim the
>>> > main
>>> > John & Maryann Read
>>> > Legacy III
>>> > 1982 C&C 34
>>> > Noank , CT
>>> >
>>> >   -----Original Message-----
>>> > From:
>>> > 
>>> <mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com>cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com 
>>> [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com]On
>>> >   Behalf Of Tim Goodyear
>>> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:27
>>> >   PM
>>> > To: <mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>>> > Subject: { Stu s-List}
>>> >   Mainsheet system on C&C 35-III
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   I'm going to change out my mainsheet system this year to replace some
>>> >   worn blocks / cleat, as well as trying to 
>>> make it kinder to the mainsail
>>> >   trimmer and making that position accessible to more people.  The
>>> >   traveller upgrade forced on me when the car disintegrated last year is
>>> >   wonderful and I wish I had done it 
>>> before.  What do people use for their
>>> >   mainsheets, how do they find them 
>>> (especially for racing)?  What line do
>>> >   people use?
>>> >
>>> >   My current setup is a 5:1 with a fine-tune inside the boom (that rarely
>>> >   gets used).  I'm thinking of going to a 6:1 or 8:1 two-speed
>>> >   and getting rid of the fine-tune.  The main
>>> >   issue with the current system has been getting the final bit of trim on
>>> >   (the fine tune would help there) and 
>>> being able to dump quickly if needed
>>> >   (fine tune can't help).  Something like the Ronstan RF72900 or Harken
>>> >   equivalent would probably work, but that 
>>> is a little pricey and will mean
>>> >   a lot of line in the cockpit...
>>> >
>>> >   Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >   Tim
>>> >
>>> >   Mojito
>>> >   C&C 35-III
>>> >
>>>
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