Stus-List Jack Lines + storm jib

Joel Aronson joel.aronson at gmail.com
Wed May 16 11:51:48 EDT 2012


Check,

I was thinking of using my spare jib halyard.  The spin halyard might
chafe.  A removable wire or rod seems like a good solution.

Joel

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Chuck S <cscheaffer at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Joel,
> Sounds like you have the jacklines down.  I agree with your sentiments
> about marine supply stores overcharging.
>
> We agree, the pedestal guard is not the best place to attach harnesses.
>
> Storm jib:
> I've seen many references describe how to properly install them carrying
> that load to a bulkhead or to a tie rod that is anchored to a structural
> member in the vee berth.   You could probably backup the downhaul fitting
> adding a padeye underneath and shackle a SS 1 x 19 wire pendant with
> turnbuckle, down to a strong padeye through bolted to structure in the vee
> berth area?  But where would the top of this storm jib terminate?  Would
> you set the sail flying using a spin halyard?  Interesting problem.  A
> sailmaker could provide the sail with a wire luff and provide the wire for
> under deck, too.
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Joel Aronson" <joel.aronson at gmail.com>
> *To: *cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:49:58 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Jack Lines + storm jib
>
> Chuck,
>
> Thanks.  I went with a yellow webbing because it is supposed to be easier
> to see at night.
>
> I've read a lot of complaints about the ATN being too hard to rig in a
> storm.  I wonder what the load is like for a spinnaker downhaul vs. the
> storm jib.  I also like the idea of not having to go all the way to the bow
> to attach it.
>
> I don't think the pedestal guard was designed as a harness anchor. I have
> 2 pad eyes at the companionway bolted with backing plates.  They don't do
> the helmsmen much good, so I may have to use the pedestal guard myself.
>
> Joel
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Chuck S <cscheaffer at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Jacklines are easy to rig on our boat.  I made a copy of the ones sold by
>> WestMarine and made them from 1" webbing.  I chose blue to contrast with
>> the offwhite deck and bought enough to go from the cockpit to the bow and
>> back, sewed a heavy duty SS cabiner into a loop in the middle.  This gets
>> clipped into a padeye 4 feet from the bow The tether allows you to get to
>> the furler fine.  Each end of webbing gets tied tight to padeyes just
>> outside the cockpit coaming.   I rig the jacklines when I run the boat
>> alone.  The webbing also makes really nice sail-ties by sewing a loop in
>> one end.
>>
>> This reminds me, I need to install more padeyes in the cockpit for crew
>> so we're not all clipped into the same anchor point like the pedestal
>> guard.
>>
>> I'd advise against using a deck padeye for attaching a heavily loaded
>> stay like a storm jib.
>> I'd prefer a storm jib like the one sold by ATN that clips around the
>> furled genoa.  I don't have one, but it looks right to me.
>>
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Atlantic City, NJ
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Tim Goodyear" <timgdyr at gmail.com>
>> *To: *cnc-list at cnc-list.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:52:05 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Jack Lines + storm jib
>>
>>
>> I have a cleat mounted on that track that holds up to mooring loads very
>> well, and I would trust it for jack lines too (I attach mine to the
>> foreward end of the toe rail on each side.  I would question whether the
>> track could adequately withstand the vertical load of a jib stay unless
>> held down below decks with a bulkhead or rigging (which would put it in the
>> middle of the v-berth.
>>
>> Tim
>> Mojito
>> 35-3
>> Branford, CT
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aronson at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I finally decided to order webbing for jack lines after reading about
>>> one too many sailing disasters and having my GF question my sanity when
>>> working on the bow untethered.  Jamestown Distributors wanted 96 cents a
>>> foot for the webbing.  Gear Express, an outdoors/climbing website has the
>>> same webbing for 31 cents a foot!  While $70 is not a big deal, I hate that
>>> marine stores charge more "just because".
>>>
>>> Is the spinnaker downhaul ring a good attachment point?  It seems to be
>>> close enough to the bow to let me work.  Also, if I ever need to use the
>>> storm jib is that ring strong enough for the jib?  The track looks like it
>>> was installed at the factory.
>>>
>>> --
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