Stus-List Jack Lines + storm jib

David Risch davidrisch75 at msn.com
Wed May 16 17:53:28 EDT 2012


Joel,

The storm jib loads are multiples of the chute down-haul.  

I would not use it.   
                                                      David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 cell

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aronson at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:49:58 
To: <cnc-list at cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Jack Lines + storm jib

Chuck,


Thanks.  I went with a yellow webbing because it is supposed to be easier to see at night.


I've read a lot of complaints about the ATN being too hard to rig in a storm.  I wonder what the load is like for a spinnaker downhaul vs. the storm jib.  I also like the idea of not having to go all the way to the bow to attach it. 
  
I don't think the pedestal guard was designed as a harness anchor. I have 2 pad eyes at the companionway bolted with backing plates.  They don't do the helmsmen much good, so I may have to use the pedestal guard myself. 


Joel


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Chuck S <cscheaffer at comcast.net <mailto:cscheaffer at comcast.net> > wrote:
 

Jacklines are easy to rig on our boat.  I made a copy of the ones sold by WestMarine and made them from 1" webbing.  I chose blue to contrast with the offwhite deck and bought enough to go from the cockpit to the bow and back, sewed a heavy duty SS cabiner into a loop in the middle.  This gets clipped into a padeye 4 feet from the bow The tether allows you to get to the furler fine.  Each end of webbing gets tied tight to padeyes just outside the cockpit coaming.   I rig the jacklines when I run the boat alone.  The webbing also makes really nice sail-ties by sewing a loop in one end.
 
This reminds me, I need to install more padeyes in the cockpit for crew so we're not all clipped into the same anchor point like the pedestal guard.   

I'd advise against using a deck padeye for attaching a heavily loaded stay like a storm jib.  
 I'd prefer a storm jib like the one sold by ATN that clips around the furled genoa.  I don't have one, but it looks right to me. 


Chuck
Resolute
 1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ

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From: "Tim Goodyear" <timgdyr at gmail.com <mailto:timgdyr at gmail.com> >
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:52:05 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Jack Lines + storm jib




I have a cleat mounted on that track that holds up to mooring loads very well, and I would trust it for jack lines too (I attach mine to the foreward end of the toe rail on each side.  I would question whether the track could adequately withstand the vertical load of a jib stay unless held down below decks with a bulkhead or rigging (which would put it in the middle of the v-berth. 
  
Tim 
Mojito 
35-3 
Branford, CT

 
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aronson at gmail.com <mailto:joel.aronson at gmail.com> > wrote:
 I finally decided to order webbing for jack lines after reading about one too many sailing disasters and having my GF question my sanity when working on the bow untethered.  Jamestown Distributors wanted 96 cents a foot for the webbing.  Gear Express, an outdoors/climbing website has the same webbing for 31 cents a foot!  While $70 is not a big deal, I hate that marine stores charge more "just because". 

 
Is the spinnaker downhaul ring a good attachment point?  It seems to be close enough to the bow to let me work.  Also, if I ever need to use the storm jib is that ring strong enough for the jib?  The track looks like it was installed at the factory.
 

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Joel  
35/3 
The Office 
Annapolis
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