Stus-List Sailing with a boom topping lift

Sam Salter sam.c.salter at gmail.com
Thu May 24 22:02:00 EDT 2012


Dwight,
Topping lift had a fixed pin at the masthead.
Fixed eye splice in FSE Robline (Dyneema) at that pin; down to one of these at the headboard:
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back up to the sheave and down through the mast to the line clutch.

sam :-)

On 2012-05-24, at 4:34 PM, dwight veinot <dwightveinot at hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:

> Sam
> 
> How did you rig that for 2:1, just in case I get old one day.
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com]
> On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour
> Sent: May 24, 2012 2:26 PM
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a boom topping lift
> 
> A 2:1 purchase on a C&C 26 main halyard?
> 
> Dude, get to the gym.
> 
> Cheers
> Colin
> 
> 
> On 5/24/12, Sam Salter <sam.c.salter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I put a Garhauer solid vang on my 26 about 6 years ago - then it was $210!
>> I eliminated the wire topping lift. I haven't missed it at all.
>> A bonus is that I used the topping lift pin aloft as a static end for my
>> main halyard. I now have a 2:1 purchase on the mainsail halyard. Makes it
> a
>> lot easier hoisting the main and very little need to use the winch.
>> 
>> Sam Salter
>> C&C 26  Liquorice
>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-05-24, at 4:24 AM, jackson maddux <jackson.maddux at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> a friend of mine with a sister ship simply put in a garhauer solid
>>> boomvang for about $500 and that eliminated the topping lift.  Perhaps my
>>> next big project......
>>> 
>>> -Jackson
>>> C&C 32
>>> Salem MA
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:35 PM, anthony psaris <apsaris at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> With a Dutchman, the topping lift is necessary. Having spoken to a couple
>>> of riggers when I was going to add a Boom Kicker, there advice was to
> keep
>>> the Dutchman, and forget the Boom Kicker. It requires that I drop the
> boom
>>> and keep the topping lift loose under sail. However, I'm very aware that
>>> the main hits the topping lift, however slightly. Chafing does happen at
>>> the batten pockets and the velcro was replaced this year. I guess this is
>>> a common problem. Anyone have any answers?
>>> Tony Psaris
>>> Unicorn Rose 29-2
>>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>> 
>>> From: Dennis C. <captbuy at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Cn Clist <CnC-List at cnc-list.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:04 PM
>>> Subject: Stus-List Sailing with a boom topping lift
>>> 
>>> Perhaps one of the more obscure sailing topics I could dream up,
> excepting
>>> cutlery organization, lefthanded corkscrews, etc.  However, a topic which
>>> I've found is misunderstood.
>>> 
>>> In my mind, boom topping lifts serve two purposes, holding the boom up
>>> when the main is not raised and adding more twist (curve) to the leech of
>>> the main when sailing.  While the former is obvious the second is more
>>> obtuse.
>>> 
>>> Some sailors like to raise the boom slightly to shape the leech of the
>>> main.  This is used mainly in very light conditions when the weight of
> the
>>> boom (assuming no rigid boom vang) tends to tighten the leech and close
>>> the exit of the main resulting in a bit of inefficiency as the flow may
>>> detach from the leeward side of the main at the exit.
>>> 
>>> The downside of sailing with the boom topping lift attached is damage to
>>> the main.  This is especially true if the topping lift is wire.  Even
> when
>>> loose, the topping lift can rub on the seams of the main.  Much of this
>>> chafe will occur at the batten pockets.  If the wear becomes excessive,
>>> the boat owner might see a batten get ejected the next time he sails in a
>>> decent breeze.
>>> 
>>> So, my advice is to not sail with a wire topping lift attached.  Either
>>> change it to line, detach it while sailing or install a rigid topping
> lift
>>> and use the boom topping lift only while the main is dropped.
>>> 
>>> I have a wire topping lift on Touche' for longevity.  I use Harken blocks
>>> 244 (fiddle with V-cleat) and 235 (single with becket) to make a small
>>> adjustable purchase which makes it easy to attach and detach the lift.
>>> 
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
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