Stus-List Bouncing Off a Shoal

Knowles Rich rich at sailpower.ca
Mon Sep 30 23:17:49 EDT 2013


That's true, Jim. Actually, given the likely outcome when it's all over, it's not that terrible. Poor old boat. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On Sep 30, 2013, at 23:18, Jim Watts <paradigmatism at gmail.com> wrote:

This is a much better time of year for this to happen than the beginning of the season, if that's any consolation. 


> On 30 September 2013 15:55, Knowles Rich <rich at sailpower.ca> wrote:
> Thanks Rick. I'm waiting for the adjuster in the next couple of days and will see what he proposes. I'm well aware of the pitfalls of straightening rudder stocks, and other stainless bits, and intend to replace the entire assembly. I suspect the keel will have to be dropped and rebedded as well. I'll report as things progress.
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
> 
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 19:05, "Rick Brass" <rickbrass at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Rich;
> 
> If you want the long story of how I know this, I'll tell you off the list,
> but FWIW:
> 
> The LF38 came with rudder shaft in 2 different diameters. The owner of the
> LF38 formerly known as Banana Wind (which I think is now in Bayfield, WI)
> can tell you more about this.
> 
> One of the diameters is 2 1/4" OD, and those rudder stocks were made two
> ways. One was made from 2" schedule 80 stainless tube with a machined spud
> welded to the top for the emergency steering and rudder support nut. The
> other was machined from a 2 1/4" OD solid bar.
> 
> The shaft on my replacement rudder is the solid bar stock, and came from the
> original rudder on Banana Wind.
> 
> If you need it, I still have the top 18" of my original rudder stock with
> the machined spud still welded in place.
> 
> During my experience, I was told by a friend who is a metallurgist that you
> weaken stainless (in my case the schedule 80 tube) by 30% or so when you
> bend it, and by another 40-50% when you heat it to straighten it. It also
> becomes more susceptible to crevice corrosion after heating. The blade from
> my original rudder is somewhere on the floor of the Neuse River in NC, where
> it fell off as the result of crevice corrosion where the rudder stock enters
> the blade about 4 years after the original heat and bend repair of a bent
> shaft.
> 
> I wish I had argued with the insurance company for a replacement rudder
> instead of the heat and bend repair they paid for.
> 
> BTW, my replacement rudder came from Foss Foam in Florida, and cost about
> $2800US in 2008/2009 including freight and using the rudder stock I provided
> them. They probably still have the drawings for the rudder they supplied to
> me.
> 
> Good luck on your project.
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1
> la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1
> Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles
> Rich
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:37 AM
> To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Bouncing Off a Shoal
> 
> Thanks for the sympathy:). Looks not too bad; bent rudder post, but I'll
> know more later today when she comes out. I'll supply more amusement at that
> time.
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
> 
> 
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