Stus-List wheel squeak

svpegasus38 svpegasus38 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 26 14:06:06 EDT 2017


Had a similar thing happen sailing to Hawaii few years ago on a 1973 Ericson 35. 500 miles from Hilo I had a steering cable break. Dug out the emergency tiller, and continued to sail. No anchoring here, lol. Figured out it was almost impossible to steer a course while looking aft at the compass, chart plotter was to slow to steer by. We hove to, changed the cable and sailed off into the sun set, well it did take all day to get to the sun set. Next morning at 5am the other cable broke. This time the capt was at the helm and the seas were in the neighborhood of 20ft instead of 4 like the day before. Hove to again changed the second cable. The owner had changed out the cable 3 years before using hardware store wire rope. I heard from a friend, who sailed back to Victoria, that the cables broke again. My thought was that he had too stuff of cable for the sheave  diameter. 


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-------- Original message --------From: ahycrace via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com> Date: 8/25/17  20:08  (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com Cc: ahycrace <ahycrace at cox.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak 
Sailing down Narragansett bay a few years ago broad reach 7kts we hear a loud BANG and no steering. Get the sails down and anchor. We look under the cockpit and see that the idler plate is so rusted that one of the pullys has pulled right off. Get the emergency tiller out and attach it motor home....a very bad day! Check that plate and all of the attached pullys. Edson has all the replacements if needed. I have pics of the bad plate before i took it off. I can post them when we get home we are in Newport watching the J class boats race.  
Gary. "Liberty"  38' Mk ll


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-------- Original message --------From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com> Date: 8/24/17  10:08 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list at cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchrest at comcast.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak 
Richard,Make sure to use a non-petroleum based lubricant for the bearings that support the wheel shaft (such as Superlube or other Teflon based grease).  Don’t squirt WD-40 or any light weight spray  lubricant into the grease holes as it will tend to flush any lube out of the nylon caged bearings.  You can also check to see if the bearings are worn if you can move the wheel shaft up and down, or side to side.  There should be no play in the shaft at all.. Edson does sell a “pedestal rebuild kit” that includes bearings, circlips and all the other thrust washers and replacement components for the wheel shaft.  If you go down that road, I’d also take the time to replace the brake shoes if everything else is apart. The other possibility for your squeaky noise is the sheave pins (axles) for the bronze idler wheels.  They ride on plain bushings and in the “old days” the axles were also bronze, which will wear out eventually and allow the sheaves to go flying into the bilge under tension at the worst possible time.  If those have never been checked, replaced with stainless pins, or lubricated as described in Edson’s steering maintenance instructions, I would certainly do so.  Once the sheave pins wear, the sheaves go out of alignment and the squeaking you hear may be the axles getting ready to let go.   Finally, the Edson Idler plate at the base of the pedestal is generally made of mild steel below the deck.  Not terribly subjected to the elements, but they can and will eventually start to rust.  Once that happens, sheaves, cable alignments and other critical steering components can be affected, so check for a rusty idler plate as well as wobbly sheave uprights. Whatever you do, don’t wait for it to fail to fix it..  Boats without steering are not safe by any stretch of the imagination.  The folks at Edson are very good at walking you through what you need and they have data sheets on most every C&C Steering system they sold for our boats.Cheers,Chuck GilchrestS/V Half Magic1983 35 LandfallPadanaram, MA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bounces at cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak Is it an Edson pedestal?  If so, there are two places to squeeze in grease under the compass.  If you look on YouTube there are Edson videos on replacing the bearings and they show the grease points.   I just did the bearing replacement on my current boat. Joel On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com> wrote:Greetings,  The wheel on our 1978 36-footer has always squeaked to varying degrees. Anyone found a solution to squeaky wheels? When it comes to getting grease, I cannot locate a grease fitting (Zerc). Anyone added one?  Thank you,Richard s/v INDIGO 
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