Stus-List Running light bulb access 37+

David Risch davidrisch75 at msn.com
Sat May 11 19:00:45 EDT 2019


If its the same light fixture I have...I too thought it captured until I found out it wasnt.
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Running light bulb access 37+

Tom,

Assuming you have the same lights, there is a long screw on the outside, which should not fall out when completely loose. Then lift the lens housing up and off.

Best.

Edd

On May 11, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I have a set of LED replacement bulbs for my forward running light.  But I’ll be damned if I can figure out how to access the socket.  Before I break something, any lister with the same fixture (89-94 34+ or 37+) have experience changing these out?

thx

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  Steering cable questions for Chuck (Chuck Gilchrest)
  2. Re:  Steering cable questions for Chuck (Dennis C.)


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Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 07:26:51 -0400
From: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchrest at comcast.net<mailto:csgilchrest at comcast.net>>
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There should always be sufficient tension in the steering cables that they are never ?slack? enough to allow the adjusting bolts to be loose.
If the swaged Rod is so corroded that it can?t  be slid through the holes in the quadrant, or turned to adjust tension, simply cut them off and replace the chain/ cable assembly.  It?s time!  Once the cable is cut, you?ll be able to unscrew the rod using a vice grip or other such tool.
But I can?t stress this enough:  don?t take cheap shortcuts regarding steering system components.  By performing regular maintenance on cable tension, inspection and lubrication using Edson guidelines, you can avoid scenarios like Dennis is experiencing.  In terms of priority maintenance, I rank steering right behind flotation (seacocks and through hulls).
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA



On May 10, 2019, at 4:53 PM, DMcMillan via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Maybe if the swaged threaded rod was not corroded in the hole, it is possible that there could be some movement of the rod when it is not under tension i.e. the wheel is turned in the opposite direction.   The movement in the hole could possibly damage the threads making adjustment difficult?

BTW, what is a ?take up eye??  you mean an eye bolt?

Dennis M

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Steering cable questions for Chuck

Makes sense.  Thanks.

Dennis C.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:09 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I neglected to answer the second question:
These days, take up eyes are simply easier to install in the system.  If you have swaged threaded rod on the end of the cables, it can be a bear to thread down through the idler and turning sheaves around and through  the holes on a quadrant or radial, whereas using take up eyes makes for a much easier threading of the steering cables through the sheaves and around the quadrant.  The take up eyes can be pre-installed on the radial or quadrant and much of the initial tension can be pre-tensioned with rope clamps, adjusting the final length of the steering cable.
Also, a swaged rod can be subject to crevice corrosion where the cable end is installed into the threaded rod fitting, similar to a lifeline.  Hard to see the corrosion when it is covered.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

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Subject: Stus-List Steering cable questions for Chuck

Chuck,

Why does Edson not want a nut opposite the tensioning and lock nuts.  Just because it is redundant and serves no purpose?

Is a tensioning stud bad?  Is an adjusting eye better?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 10:17 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list at cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list at cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Per Edson?s instructions, both nuts go on the ?bitter end? of the cable.  One is to tension the cable, the other is a locking nut to prevent the other nut from coming loose.
FWIW, if you?re dealing with a swaged threaded rod on the end of the cable and chain, you?re using a 38 year old steering component that is recommended to be changed every 10 years.  So cut the cable, remove the threaded rod from the radial drive, get a new chain/cable set up with take up eyes and rope clamps and be happy the old one never failed!
Chuck Gilchrest
1983 Landfall 35



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Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 08:15:10 -0500
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"Like Dennis experienced".  Past tense.  Done.  :)

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Chuck's advice and info was very valuable to the project.  Thanks to Rob
and Neil also.  Touche's steering system is literally better than new.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, May 11, 2019, 6:27 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
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But I can?t stress this enough:  don?t take cheap shortcuts regarding
steering system components.  By performing regular maintenance on cable
tension, inspection and lubrication using Edson guidelines, you can avoid
scenarios like Dennis is experiencing.  In terms of priority maintenance, I
rank steering right behind flotation (seacocks and through hulls).
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA



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