36-1 Stuffing Box Access.
36-1 Owners,
Hello. I am looking for any insight into how any 36 owners have managed the
lack of access to the stuffing box. Each time I want to get it, we have to
pull the muffler, and then the access is still very limited. On the other 3
boats I have owned, it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure what they were
thinking.
I looked into the PYI system, but my yard wanted to cut the shaft and put in
a new one. It is less than 10 years old, so that is a no-go. We are going to
pack with Teflon instead of the old-style flax that was in there and hope
for better results. But having to adjust it once it is in the water is a
real challenge. I have seen the access on the later model 34, and I am very
jealous. Thanks.
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT
Hi John. Teflon packing works great. Check with Brer Rabbit. Their 33-1
engine is mounted backwards with a v drive so the stuffing box is under the
engine so limited access. Hope this helps John of the 34 aforementioned.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 7:00 PM John McCrea via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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36-1 Owners,
Hello. I am looking for any insight into how any 36 owners have managed
the lack of access to the stuffing box. Each time I want to get it, we have
to pull the muffler, and then the access is still very limited. On the
other 3 boats I have owned, it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure what they
were thinking.
I looked into the PYI system, but my yard wanted to cut the shaft and put
in a new one. It is less than 10 years old, so that is a no-go. We are
going to pack with Teflon instead of the old-style flax that was in there
and hope for better results. But having to adjust it once it is in the
water is a real challenge. I have seen the access on the later model 34,
and I am very jealous. Thanks.
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT
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Stu
Thanks John.
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Subject: Stus-List Re: 36-1 Stuffing Box Access.
Hi John. Teflon packing works great. Check with Brer Rabbit. Their 33-1 engine is mounted backwards with a v drive so the stuffing box is under the engine so limited access. Hope this helps John of the 34 aforementioned.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 7:00 PM John McCrea via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
36-1 Owners,
Hello. I am looking for any insight into how any 36 owners have managed the lack of access to the stuffing box. Each time I want to get it, we have to pull the muffler, and then the access is still very limited. On the other 3 boats I have owned, it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure what they were thinking.
I looked into the PYI system, but my yard wanted to cut the shaft and put in a new one. It is less than 10 years old, so that is a no-go. We are going to pack with Teflon instead of the old-style flax that was in there and hope for better results. But having to adjust it once it is in the water is a real challenge. I have seen the access on the later model 34, and I am very jealous. Thanks.
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT
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Thanks for your help.
Stu
Hi John,
Why did your yard want to cut the shaft to install the PYI shaft seal? That
doesn't make any sense to me. It might be hard to get the coupling off but
if that is the case then you can cut off the coupling leaving the shaft
reusable (be sure to cut the coupler where the key is located in the shaft
so you don't cut into the shaft itself) and then you just need have a new
coupling machined to fit your shaft. I put a PYI on my C&C 34 and am very
happy with the results! Not sure on the 36 but on my 34 the shaft is
offset so it fits past the rudder without pulling the rudder - I don't even
need to remove the folding prop off the shaft. PYI does recommend replacing
the bellows every 5 years and I am due for that so it is on the agenda for
this year. It also does need some adjustment initially to get the
compression right but once that is set, I didn't need to touch it for 5
years (until 3 of my engine mounts failed this summer - engine shifted
forward when in gear and resulted in water coming in while motoring but
that wasn't really the PYI's fault.
Nathan
S/V Wisper
1981 C&C 34 KCB
Portland ME
John,
I replaced my flax packing with Tefpak along with Teflon lubricant. I am continually adjusting the stuffing box to get an appropriate drip rate of 1-2 drops/min with the shaft rotating. The drip continues when the engine is not running. Fortunately my boat is a 35 Mark III with easy access to the stuffing box. (Only minimal boat yoga needed to access the stuffing box). If your access is poor my recommendation is to continue with flax.
Mike Nicholls
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Subject: Stus-List Re: 36-1 Stuffing Box Access.
Thanks John.
From: John Read via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 7:06 PM
To: Stus-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Read johnpread01@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: 36-1 Stuffing Box Access.
Hi John. Teflon packing works great. Check with Brer Rabbit. Their 33-1 engine is mounted backwards with a v drive so the stuffing box is under the engine so limited access. Hope this helps John of the 34 aforementioned.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 7:00 PM John McCrea via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
36-1 Owners,
Hello. I am looking for any insight into how any 36 owners have managed the lack of access to the stuffing box. Each time I want to get it, we have to pull the muffler, and then the access is still very limited. On the other 3 boats I have owned, it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure what they were thinking.
I looked into the PYI system, but my yard wanted to cut the shaft and put in a new one. It is less than 10 years old, so that is a no-go. We are going to pack with Teflon instead of the old-style flax that was in there and hope for better results. But having to adjust it once it is in the water is a real challenge. I have seen the access on the later model 34, and I am very jealous. Thanks.
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT
Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
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Thanks for your help.
Stu
Mike, I have 37 and I share your pain in getting to the stuffing box area; I went with the PYI and have been happy with it; there are other brands which seem to do well also; I just didn't want to crawl down in there on a frequent basis, and bit the bullet on the new shaft...; best of luck with your 36!
Richard
1986 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 10:33:40 PM EDT, Mike Nicholls via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
John,
I replaced my flax packing with Tefpak along with Teflon lubricant. I am continually adjusting the stuffing box to get an appropriate drip rate of 1-2 drops/min with the shaft rotating. The drip continues when the engine is not running. Fortunately my boat is a 35 Mark III with easy access to the stuffing box. (Only minimal boat yoga needed to access the stuffing box). If your access is poor my recommendation is to continue with flax.
Mike Nicholls
From: John McCrea via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: April 4, 2024 4:08 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: johnmccrea@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: 36-1 Stuffing Box Access.
Thanks John.
From: John Read via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 7:06 PM
To: Stus-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Read johnpread01@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: 36-1 Stuffing Box Access.
Hi John. Teflon packing works great. Check with Brer Rabbit. Their 33-1 engine is mounted backwards with a v drive so the stuffing box is under the engine so limited access. Hope this helps John of the 34 aforementioned.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 7:00 PM John McCrea via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
36-1 Owners,
Hello. I am looking for any insight into how any 36 owners have managed the lack of access to the stuffing box. Each time I want to get it, we have to pull the muffler, and then the access is still very limited. On the other 3 boats I have owned, it was a piece of cake. I'm not sure what they were thinking.
I looked into the PYI system, but my yard wanted to cut the shaft and put in a new one. It is less than 10 years old, so that is a no-go. We are going to pack with Teflon instead of the old-style flax that was in there and hope for better results. But having to adjust it once it is in the water is a real challenge. I have seen the access on the later model 34, and I am very jealous. Thanks.
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT
Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Thanks for your help.
Stu
Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Thanks for your help.
Stu