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Dean McNeill

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 9:42 PM

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? What says the C&C brain trust? Thanks, Dean BarraWind 1980 C&C 34 Halifax NS

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Ken Heaton

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 10:05 PM

I'd use good quality Butyl Tape, around the bolts and in the bolt holes.

Ken H.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 18:43, Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS
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I'd use good quality Butyl Tape, around the bolts and in the bolt holes. Ken H. On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 18:43, Dean McNeill via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient > primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. > I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing > plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. > > Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between > winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have > anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. > > Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood > core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under > bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove > someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? > > What says the C&C brain trust? > > Thanks, Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu

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Jeffrey A. Laman

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 11:13 PM

Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting anything.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 Harmony
Ludington, Mich

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS
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Thanks for your help.
Stu

Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting anything. Jeff Laman 1981 C&C34 Harmony Ludington, Mich Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Dean McNeill <dean@deanmc.ca> Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? What says the C&C brain trust? Thanks, Dean BarraWind 1980 C&C 34 Halifax NS Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=05%7C02%7C%7C77d374048f38413585fc08dc59a72b03%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638483821728002166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QIGFZKY7gwts9Si0ie99atJGKvglYrLAXRbcVX8NaeI%3D&reserved=0<https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> Thanks for your help. Stu

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Dean McNeill

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 11:21 PM

Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS

On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman JLaman5@outlook.com wrote:

Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting anything.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 Harmony
Ludington, Mich

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From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
To: Stus-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dean McNeill dean@deanmc.ca
Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS
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Thanks for your help.
Stu

Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is! Dean BarraWind 1980 C&C 34 Halifax NS > On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman <JLaman5@outlook.com> wrote: > > Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting anything. > > Jeff Laman > 1981 C&C34 Harmony > Ludington, Mich > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM > To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Dean McNeill <dean@deanmc.ca> > Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions > > I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. > > Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. > > Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? > > What says the C&C brain trust? > > Thanks, Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=05%7C02%7C%7C77d374048f38413585fc08dc59a72b03%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638483821728002166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QIGFZKY7gwts9Si0ie99atJGKvglYrLAXRbcVX8NaeI%3D&reserved=0 <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> > Thanks for your help. > Stu

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ed vanderkruk

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 11:37 PM

You might find grooves in the base of the winch which should be kept clear
of butyl to allow water to drain out of the body of the winch. Otherwise
water pools up to, maybe, the level of the lower gear sets.

Ed

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:21 p.m. Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS

On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman JLaman5@outlook.com wrote:

Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far
easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the
sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting
anything.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 Harmony
Ludington, Mich

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From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
To: Stus-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dean McNeill dean@deanmc.ca
Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS
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Thanks for your help.
Stu

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Thanks for your help.
Stu

You might find grooves in the base of the winch which should be kept clear of butyl to allow water to drain out of the body of the winch. Otherwise water pools up to, maybe, the level of the lower gear sets. Ed On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:21 p.m. Dean McNeill via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is! > Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > > On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman <JLaman5@outlook.com> wrote: > > Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far > easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the > sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting > anything. > > Jeff Laman > 1981 C&C34 Harmony > Ludington, Mich > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dean McNeill via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM > *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Dean McNeill <dean@deanmc.ca> > *Subject:* Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions > > I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient > primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. > I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing > plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. > > Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between > winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have > anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. > > Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood > core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under > bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove > someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? > > What says the C&C brain trust? > > Thanks, Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=05%7C02%7C%7C77d374048f38413585fc08dc59a72b03%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638483821728002166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QIGFZKY7gwts9Si0ie99atJGKvglYrLAXRbcVX8NaeI%3D&reserved=0 > <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu

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Dennis C.

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 11:58 PM

Butyl tape or Life Products LifeSeal.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:42 PM Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS
Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
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Thanks for your help.
Stu

Butyl tape or Life Products LifeSeal. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:42 PM Dean McNeill via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient > primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. > I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing > plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. > > Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between > winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have > anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. > > Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood > core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under > bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove > someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? > > What says the C&C brain trust? > > Thanks, Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu

NP

Nathan Post

Thu, Apr 11, 2024 12:14 AM

Agree with everyone on butyl tape. Also I suggest countersinking the holes
slightly to give a small shoulder area where the butyl can sit around the
boat. Put the bolts through the base of the winch and wrap them with a
small rolled snake of tape right where they come through. You can also put
a layer of tape on the entire bottom but it probably isn't needed and as
others have mentioned watch out for any drain holes.

With the butyl tape, you need to come back several times over at least a
few days and tighten the bolts further as it relaxes and flows into place.
Then trim the excess that comes out around the outside before putting the
top of the winch on.

Note, not all butyl tapes are created equal. As has been recommended by
many on this list, bed-it butyl tape is what I have been the happiest with:
https://bed-it.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw8diwBhAbEiwA7i_sJfsZj1Ga-q3dJepvUm9eG958mdXQ3BBk-yhNqhTZT0OAmtG8fOke1xoCytoQAvD_BwE

Nathan Post
S/V Wisper
C&C 34 KCB
Portland ME

Agree with everyone on butyl tape. Also I suggest countersinking the holes slightly to give a small shoulder area where the butyl can sit around the boat. Put the bolts through the base of the winch and wrap them with a small rolled snake of tape right where they come through. You can also put a layer of tape on the entire bottom but it probably isn't needed and as others have mentioned watch out for any drain holes. With the butyl tape, you need to come back several times over at least a few days and tighten the bolts further as it relaxes and flows into place. Then trim the excess that comes out around the outside before putting the top of the winch on. Note, not all butyl tapes are created equal. As has been recommended by many on this list, bed-it butyl tape is what I have been the happiest with: https://bed-it.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw8diwBhAbEiwA7i_sJfsZj1Ga-q3dJepvUm9eG958mdXQ3BBk-yhNqhTZT0OAmtG8fOke1xoCytoQAvD_BwE Nathan Post S/V Wisper C&C 34 KCB Portland ME

BW

Bruce Whitmore

Fri, Apr 12, 2024 12:24 PM

And specifically, use Bed-It brand. Others are ok, but not as good as
Bed-It.

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092ecare ok, but the

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:22 PM Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS

On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman JLaman5@outlook.com wrote:

Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far
easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the
sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting
anything.

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 Harmony
Ludington, Mich

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From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
To: Stus-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dean McNeill dean@deanmc.ca
Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C&C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C&C 34
Halifax NS
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And specifically, use Bed-It brand. Others are ok, but not as good as Bed-It. Bruce Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis" Madeira Beach, FL (847) 404-5092ecare ok, but the On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:22 PM Dean McNeill via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is! > Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > > On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman <JLaman5@outlook.com> wrote: > > Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far > easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the > sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting > anything. > > Jeff Laman > 1981 C&C34 Harmony > Ludington, Mich > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dean McNeill via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM > *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Dean McNeill <dean@deanmc.ca> > *Subject:* Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions > > I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient > primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. > I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing > plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. > > Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between > winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have > anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes. > > Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood > core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under > bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove > someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else? > > What says the C&C brain trust? > > Thanks, Dean > > BarraWind > 1980 C&C 34 > Halifax NS > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=05%7C02%7C%7C77d374048f38413585fc08dc59a72b03%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638483821728002166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QIGFZKY7gwts9Si0ie99atJGKvglYrLAXRbcVX8NaeI%3D&reserved=0 > <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu

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joe@dellabarba.com

Fri, Apr 12, 2024 6:22 PM

https://delaware.craigslist.org/bod/d/wilmington-1990-cc-34/7729712631.html

I have to say this is the first time I have seen a boat this size with a trailer. I am pretty sure my Volvo would get a hernia or something trying to tow it.

I like the layout 😊

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

https://delaware.craigslist.org/bod/d/wilmington-1990-cc-34/7729712631.html I have to say this is the first time I have seen a boat this size with a trailer. I am pretty sure my Volvo would get a hernia or something trying to tow it. I like the layout 😊 Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA

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Jeff Nelson

Fri, Apr 12, 2024 6:49 PM

Yeah, at 12k lbs, likely need at least 2 volvo's.
or
Sportchassis.com would haul it with ease.

Cheers,
Jeff Nelson
Muir Caileag
C&C 30 - 549
Armdale Y.C.

On 2024-04-12 15:22, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:

https://delaware.craigslist.org/bod/d/wilmington-1990-cc-34/7729712631.html

I have to say this is the first time I have seen a boat this size with
a trailer. I am pretty sure my Volvo would get a hernia or something
trying to tow it.

I like the layout 😊

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

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Yeah, at 12k lbs, likely need at least 2 volvo's. or Sportchassis.com would haul it with ease. Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 - 549 Armdale Y.C. On 2024-04-12 15:22, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: > > https://delaware.craigslist.org/bod/d/wilmington-1990-cc-34/7729712631.html > > I have to say this is the first time I have seen a boat this size with > a trailer. I am pretty sure my Volvo would get a hernia or something > trying to tow it. > > I like the layout 😊 > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina C&C 35 MK I > > Kent Island MD USA > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu