36-1 Repower or 3HM35 heat exchanger?

JF
jacob fuerst
Wed, Apr 10, 2024 12:35 PM

Good day,

In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I
found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and
may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of
additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar
shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here
knows of a lead?

That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the
heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number
because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the
total hours.

My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but
at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My
question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop
points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered
compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40.

I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks
in advance!

Jacob Fuerst
303-520-4669
1978 C&C 36
Ventura, CA

Good day, In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here knows of a lead? That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the total hours. My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40. I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks in advance! Jacob Fuerst 303-520-4669 1978 C&C 36 Ventura, CA
JM
Josh Muckley
Wed, Apr 10, 2024 1:49 PM

Keep and eye on ebay.  You can find lots of used parts for the 3HM.

A machinist will probably have ideas about how to get yours to seal.  After exhausting professional options, I'd try employing JB Weld epoxy putty.  You could manufacturer a flat plate to bolt or press in place of the end bell.  Use mold release so the plate isn't permanent.  By using the plate, you create a flat face against which the JB Weld will form.  Use a dremel to clean up the details once it is cured.  Repeat for the end bell.  Now with 2 flat surfaces you shouldn't have trouble getting a seal.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Yanmar 3HM35F
Solomons, MD

Apr 10, 2024 08:36:04 jacob fuerst via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com:

Good day,

In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here knows of a lead?

That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the total hours.

My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40. 

I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks in advance!

Jacob Fuerst
303-520-4669
1978 C&C 36
Ventura, CA

Keep and eye on ebay.  You can find lots of used parts for the 3HM. A machinist will probably have ideas about how to get yours to seal.  After exhausting professional options, I'd try employing JB Weld epoxy putty.  You could manufacturer a flat plate to bolt or press in place of the end bell.  Use mold release so the plate isn't permanent.  By using the plate, you create a flat face against which the JB Weld will form.  Use a dremel to clean up the details once it is cured.  Repeat for the end bell.  Now with 2 flat surfaces you shouldn't have trouble getting a seal. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Yanmar 3HM35F Solomons, MD Apr 10, 2024 08:36:04 jacob fuerst via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>: > Good day, > > In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here knows of a lead? > > That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the total hours. > > My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40.  > > I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks in advance! > > Jacob Fuerst > 303-520-4669 > 1978 C&C 36 > Ventura, CA
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Doug Mountjoy
Wed, Apr 10, 2024 3:09 PM

Hi Jacob
To second what Josh said. I repaired a SB8 Yanmar cooling system with JB
weld 6 or 7 years ago. It is still holding with no leaks.

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C&C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 05:35 jacob fuerst via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

Good day,

In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I
found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and
may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of
additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar
shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here
knows of a lead?

That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the
heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number
because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the
total hours.

My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but
at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My
question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop
points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered
compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40.

I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks
in advance!

Jacob Fuerst
303-520-4669
1978 C&C 36
Ventura, CA
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Hi Jacob To second what Josh said. I repaired a SB8 Yanmar cooling system with JB weld 6 or 7 years ago. It is still holding with no leaks. Douglas Mountjoy 1988 C&C LF 39 Mexico at large 1984 Sabre 34 Port Orchard, WA On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 05:35 jacob fuerst via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Good day, > > In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I > found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and > may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of > additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar > shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here > knows of a lead? > > That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the > heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number > because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the > total hours. > > My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but > at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My > question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop > points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered > compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40. > > I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks > in advance! > > Jacob Fuerst > 303-520-4669 > 1978 C&C 36 > Ventura, CA > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu
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Dennis C.
Wed, Apr 10, 2024 7:32 PM

Jacob,

Like Josh suggested, a good machine shop can probably help.  Failing that,
I'd take the exchanger to a good radiator shop.

I had corrosion and leakage on the sealing surface of a side plate of the
Atomic 4 that was in Touche' when I bought it.  Repaired it with JB Weld
and a flat file.  Sealed up great and didn't leak for years until I
repowered it.

Is this it?

https://www.dam-marine.com/gb/home/32570-yanmar-3hm35-cooling-fresh-water-cooler-75b8dbdd.html

BTW, there's a complete 3HM35F on eBay for $5000.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 7:35 AM jacob fuerst via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Good day,

In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I
found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and
may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of
additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar
shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here
knows of a lead?

That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the
heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number
because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the
total hours.

My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but
at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My
question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop
points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered
compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40.

I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks
in advance!

Jacob Fuerst
303-520-4669
1978 C&C 36
Ventura, CA

Jacob, Like Josh suggested, a good machine shop can probably help. Failing that, I'd take the exchanger to a good radiator shop. I had corrosion and leakage on the sealing surface of a side plate of the Atomic 4 that was in Touche' when I bought it. Repaired it with JB Weld and a flat file. Sealed up great and didn't leak for years until I repowered it. Is this it? https://www.dam-marine.com/gb/home/32570-yanmar-3hm35-cooling-fresh-water-cooler-75b8dbdd.html BTW, there's a complete 3HM35F on eBay for $5000. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 7:35 AM jacob fuerst via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Good day, > > In the process of doing some much needed engine upkeep on a 3HM35 and I > found the heat exchanger case has some corrosion around the front seal and > may not reseal or at least not for very long. There is quite a bit of > additional corrosion around the front of the same case. The local yanmar > shop said they looked for a replacement to no avail. Perhaps someone here > knows of a lead? > > That said I’m not entirely opposed to dropping a new engine in because the > heat exchanger isn’t the only issue and I don’t even know the serial number > because the ID plate fell off before I became the owner and who knows the > total hours. > > My understanding is these boats were originally fitted with the 3QM30 but > at some point a 3HM35 with 2 bladed folding prop was installed in mine. My > question is if a 3YM30AE would be a sufficient replacement. The local shop > points out the higher rpm of the 3YM and believes it would be underpowered > compared to the current 3HM and is suggesting a 3JH40. > > I’m interested to hear any thoughts or experiences you might have. Thanks > in advance! > > Jacob Fuerst > 303-520-4669 > 1978 C&C 36 > Ventura, CA >